Debate: a world or no world!

[smell-the-p-poop]

hi!!!!! i'm gonna take up space and talk about the world! yea... IF YOU THINK YOUR THE MAIN THING OF THIS PLANET THEN YOUR NOT! your just the smartest thing...! i think... yea! what if the planet all of a sudden fell? would it keep going or will there be ground? will we feel the planet fall? if there is ground would we live or get smashed..? yea... i'm confused! ok yea... the plants are the main things of the universe! not us, people! the planets are what keeps us alive! not us! everybody just lives life like they own it but they really don't! is there even such thing as heaven or bell with an h (LOL!)? i think it's all made up! i don't even think there's ghosts!i think people just exaurate(sp?) all the stories! like yea,... i don't think there is a heaven or bell with an h! i think that it's all a lie! i mean, people say that there's only a heaven for people! well... animals are living too! if there's only a heaven for people then it's not true! it can't be! we're just things on the earth living! we're nothing special! it's because of some people that invent stuff like words or yea... every thing that i'm saying! if those people didn't invent words i wouldn't be making sence right now! is there such thing as god? i mean... people can be making him up! if he does exist where does he live! nobody knows! so it can't be true! nothing can be true! it's all a lie! yea... ok bye! i think i wasted enough space for now! haha! BYE!

[bonemaster13]

theres no gravity in space, so like the world cant fall ya alex i was paying attention in science so there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Yuki]

Hm...that would have been easier to read if there were paragraphs!

It is impossible for the world to literally 'fall'. There is no gravity in space, so even if the Earth somehow pulled out of the sun's pull, it wouldn't fall, but rather just float about in space...I think. At least until it was pulled into another force like the sun.

Yes, people could be making God up, but they could also be making up Neptune. Have you ever SEEN Neptune? Have you ever been there? Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It all depends on what you want to beleive, if you don't want to believe it, you won't. You have to want to believe.
I don't really want to make my post all too religious since I know that not everyone on the board are religious people. Let's try not to make this thread turn into something ugly.
I will end with a scripture quote:

"And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the floor, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord."
~Joshua 24:15

EDIT: I just realized that our newest member, bonesmaster13 posted while I was posting! We said the same thing, so please excuse that.

[tanmanpursley73]

ok first off yuki and imaginary God is living, hate to tell ya it says so in a couple of scriptures i just cant think of them off the top of my head.

ok now imaginary so u think that there isnt a god do u know what the odds that nething would exist at all if he didnt create the earth and the big bang was how it all happened?

the odds r about the same as if u were to blow up a printing press and have a dictionary land in perfect order right in front of u opened up to the r section

and if God didnt exist then how did matter come into existance?

i could go on with alot more arguements but ill leave it to this untill i get more coments

[Football54]

I'm goning to go lots of different ways with this so I hope that you all follow me here and that I don't make this too confusing.

First of all, excellent point Yuki, on the "neptune" analogy. Its like New York city, or the pyramids. Everyone (and I quote) "knows" that they exist, but no one has ever really seen them. Or World War 1. No one here lived through it but we all (and I quote again) "know" it happened because we read about it. Its all about what you want to believe.

Also, tanman, excellent post with the "dictionary" analogy. I like to add a couple of points whenever this comes into a convo. If we calculate it out, the big bang theory, might could happen, but in reality, no. If you blew up a printing 30 times more than the odds required for you to get a dictionary (let alone one opened to the R section), you would never get a dictionary, it just wouldnt' happen. There is never organization without a higher power.
For example. look at a forest. A forest will never grow its trees in straight rows, ever, and like I said earlier, if you put up the chances on paper and gave enough forests, enough chances to do it, they never would, simply because "there is never organization without a higher power" like I said earlier. When humans come, however, and plant a grove, they will grow in straight lines because we made it that way.

Another thing that I like to add to this (you can tell i've had this conversation or conversations like it more than once) is about energy. Energy, althought it is here in the universe, requires a starter. When you start a car, it will go, but it needs something or someone to key the ignition first. A ball will roll down a hill, but it need someone to put it at the top of the hill first. Our houses will generate light in our rooms, but it requires someone to flip the switch first.

And tanman/yuki, that scripture is D&C 130:22-23

I love these discussions, so like Yuki said, lets not make it into a fight or a yelling/swearing contest because someone gets all hurt becuase of what we post. If you feel like you don't want to be part of this thread, have the maturity to not post and close it, thanks.

[smell-the-p-poop]

ok sorry! forget this debate thing! i just don't have a religion and yea... i wasn't thinking and SORRY!

[bonemaster13]

ppl do believe that animals go to heaven. that is true, right?

[tanyahead]

i don't get it. I KEEP SEEING LITTLE DOTS! i'm scared.

[Football54]

imaginary_things, I'm sorry if I offended you, I didn't mean to if I did, you or anyone else, I was merely posting my opinion (since I love these debates so much ;D)

And yes, I've never really heard a whole lot about it, just a little bit, but animals do go to heaven, you'll see goldie your fish again someday

[smell-the-p-poop]

HEEEEEEE you didn't offened me! i was going with my opinon too! yea! just like i did with the punk thing! yea... and tanya i see dots too! it scares me!

[Ali]

Dots?

[smell-the-p-poop]

yea! black dots that blocks your view! and then the dots turn white!