Drugs: Legalize?

[Football54]

ok guys, I hope this is a good one.

Ok, everyone (hopefully) should agree with me that the US has failed MISERABLY on its war on drugs. What is the solution? My family has always been very into this and I will post my opinion later on. And give realistic solutions and opinions, not "kill them all" or "stop them from coming into the US." All opinions are appreciated, just don't make it dumb, some people tend to do that on this subject, thanks.

[tanmanpursley73]

alright heres my profecional opinion drugs r gay all they do is make u feel good for like 2 min then u r addicted and u feel worse than before u started and it kills u eventually

as a solution to this problem i would have to say start with harsher punishment for drug dealers if we can get rid of the guys who r selling the shtuff then we will get rid of the problem also if we r gonna get rid of it we need to do it as a global attack cuz just america isnt gonna work another good place to start fighting drugs is in the media they seriosly need to stop promoting the drugs as cool and people who r straight as gay (although i will have to say that the movie scarface was freaking crazy and awesome along with ne movie with jay and silent bob)

another great way to fight is to get harsher punishment for teenagers if they get caught and we need to start doing drug testing in school at least once a year on the students that the teachers/principle/administration believe might be involved in drugs.

[Football54]

right you are tanman, drugs are gay
but
Harsher punishments for dealers and teenagers won't affect anything really, maybe a few people. There will always be someone out there willing to sell drugs so long as there is a demand. The demand will never go away, I'm sad to say, but it won't. Those who think all of America, someday, will be drug free are living in the clouds. Back to earth. If we legalize drugs, who will be hurt? Only every drug lord and organized crime group in the US or supplying the US with the drugs it has. They will all be out of business like nothing. Whenever there is a demand for something and the goverment makes it illegal, a black market will always appear, always. Whatever the dealers charge (always a ridiculous amount) people will pay.
Half the cost of law enforcement today is based on drugs or drug-related crime. A normal income cannot usually support drug users, who need more money for these expensive habits. They are the thieves, murders, car jackers, and kidnappers who make our streets dangerous.

[tanyahead]

I think it should be legalized because if people choose to feel good (even for a few minuets) they should. Why? because life sucks sometimes, and it might be good for people to escape from it for a bit.
Also, weed is good. like for medical reasons.
the end

[RockinRole]

I disagree. Drugs may help for a few minutes, but it will bring you down. For a few measly minutes, people become depressed, addicts, and so on. It often kills people too, not only the people taking the drugs. If someone wants to do it, you might say it's their choice. Well their choice affect the choices of thousands or millions. I for one don't think it's worth it. For medical treatments, it might be ok, if your doing it in a medical facility where you can be watched without having an overdose of the drug. That is my opinion.

[Football54]

Yes rockinrole. And tanya, I didn't say I was an addict, I said we should legalize them, that will help fix the problem. I'm not for drugs, I'm for getting rid of the problem.

[Empress Kitty]

There's too much people in the world anyway. Drugs should be legal! Legal, I say!

Just kidding. I think drugs should be banned. We would all be a lot happier without them. I think people can help themselves to feel better with healthier things.

[tanmanpursley73]

woh i guess my thing didnt post i thought i posted earlier but it didnt go hmmm that makes me mad o well

ne ways ok tanya do u know what drugs do to make u happy? apperently not ok here it goes... (lets say were using pot)

ok u have a certain amout of this chemical in ur brain that makes u feel normal or happy or excited or what now when ur hi these chemicals over flow and go crazy in ur head and ur body cleans them up but when they get rid of them u loose some of the original stuff that u had so ull never feel normal again after that first time doing dope so then u wanna do it again so u can feel happy cuz u cant ne more unless ur hi so u do it over and over again and each time that u do it ur bodylooses more of the chemicals so u feel worse and worse and worse and eventually u have to get hi just to feel normal cuz ur out of the chemical in ur body and u always feel sad and depressed and paranoid and stuff and while this is happening ur killing brain cells and screwing up ur lungs and ur body and what not its just not worth it at all

now if we make these legal whats gonna happen is its gonna get worse lare not better the drug lords may die but the government will get alot richer and so theyll never ban it again and then big companies will start makin it and stuff in mass production i garentee that it would get worse think about if drugs were aloud at our school what would happen? would they become less comonly found or more comonly found hmmm they would become alot more common.


all in all it would be bad and its just not good very gay there is 0 count them 0 good things about drugs

[Football54]

ok, before i even start my argument, how is the government going to get rich off drugs?

Ok tanman, lets start with companies making the drugs. When a company makes a drug, it has to pass regulations right? The drugs that they make would be a bit different, without a few of the chemicals that they Drug Lords (DL's) put in them. I'm not saying its right. I'm not saying its safe. I'm not saying its healthy, I'm merely pointing out a fact.
Do you really think they would be found at school tanman? I would have to agree. Oh wait, they already ARE found at school. If we legalize them, their appearance at school will not rise much, kind of like cigarrettes.

And I'm going to say this about 30 times probably, I'm not saying drugs are good, I'm totally against drugs. But, i'm also against getting rid of the problem we have now. And, I am also a realist and have no problem realising what is going on in the world today.

Like I said in my earlier post, we can dream about a drug free America but "back to earth," not gonna happen. All we can really do is educate the public and hope for the best.
I'm going to go off my first post a bit and a few others' first posts.
In the 1920's, alcohol became illegal because of an amendment "prohibition" was passed. The result, the organized crime and dangerous streets I addressed earlier in my first post. The expensive, horrible-quality alcohol people bought blinded, crippled, and killed many people (unlike the alochol of today, which is manufactured by companies with regulations, hmm...). After all the chaos, destruction, bribery, corruptiong and loss of life, America realized what prohibition was doing to them and repealed the amendment. The streets immediately became safer (not over a period of time, immediately) and the gangs went out of business.
Todays war on drugs is nothing more than a re-run of the prohibtion humiliation. About 40 million Americans are occastional, passive illegal drug users and are of no threat to anything or anyone. They are not going to stop, like I said, the "demand" for drugs will never, ever go away, sadly. Laws and enforcement officers can't, and won't stop drug use.

Its time to re-legalize drugs and let America take some responsibility for itself and let our citizens use their freedom. I'm not saying we should let them run amok and do whatever, but what they do is their choice, not the governments. Laws only up the crime rate and put the money (and those with money have power) in the pockets of the exact people in the country that shouldn't have it. With drugs legal, sympathetic people could do more to help rehabilitate and educate our drug users.
One last point, then I'll end.
Some Americans will always drink, smoke, use marijuana, etc. and we can't help that. But, legal drugs would be inexpensive so that Americans could support them with honest work, not crime. The police could then return to protecting use from the real criminals, and there would be enough room in our prisons for them.
I'll end with this cool quote my brother likes to say about a few things, especially drugs. Not to be mean, but its the truth I think
"Its nature's way of ridding out stupidity"

[tanmanpursley73]

lare u have some good points but what r the goals that were trying to accomplish here? to lower drug use or to raise drug use and lower crime raight?

cuz i can see how it would lower drug use and kill crime lords and stuff but the drug use would go up alot as a whole i know alot of people that r in sports would be taking steriods if they were legal and stuff and that goes with ne drug there r people out there that will use it if its legal or else they wont even consider it cuz if they get caught its not worth it to them. have u ever talked with a city slicker? thats how they r they like to live to the letter of the law pretty much at least thats how it is with most of the ones i know of course there r exeptions to this but for the most part they live alot more legal lives than us country hicks out here that can get away with a 55 in a 25 on the highway unless u r on probation

so i guess it depends on what we r trying to accomplish here if were aiming to lower stupid crime raight then legalize drugs but if were trying to fight drug use then keep it illegal cuz that will keep the cities straight

and lare i bet u nething that if we legalised drugs at our school that the drug use in our school would shoot up at least 50 %

[tanyahead]

oh god, so many words!
well, if people want to be messed up, then okay it's they're lives, they're choice so let them do it. but if you don't like it, don't do it.

[tanmanpursley73]

yes that is true tayna but that isnt the arguement that is at hand here its whether or not we should make drugs legal

[tanyahead]

right, but still legalize them so they can do it. and if you want to.. go ahead!

[Football54]

tanman, if people want to do drugs, they will do them. Its that simple. If there is a demand, there will always be someone to supply them. I'm saying that we legalize them so that the people that want/use them can get them legally and we can avoid all this crime. Its pretty much either people using drugs and a crime rate out the roof or people using drugs and safer streets. All we can do is educate the public and nothing more. And I try not to criticize people personally on here but you are a moron if you think that the drug rate in our school would jump up 50%. Its already higher than most people think.

I cannot stress this point enough, if people want to use drugs, they will! Like I said earlier in my post, approximately 40 million Americans already do drugs occasionally and are of no harm to anyone. It would be like cigarrettes. Cigarettes are never going to go away but at least they aren't a legal problem. We don't have to worry about smugglers or people fighting over them in the streets and crimes being committed because of them.

Also tanman, I want to know who this city slicker you talked to was. Alright, I agree that us "hicks" can get away with a 55 in a 25 easier than most of them because of the area we live in, but are you really ignorant enough to think that they live "the letter of the law" in the city? We live in a very VERY isolated and protected valley with lots of good people in it. The cities are worse now than Thatcher could ever dream of being. Everyone pretty much does, or has done drugs or something like that, even at our age. Thats just the way it is.
Another point I thought of is the "rebellious action" of teenagers just because something is wrong. A lot of us may not realize this but we do lots of things sometimes just to be rebellious and live on the edge. If there is no thrill in drugs, many teens will stop and look for other thrills elsewhere, possible positive thrills, I don't know. No one can predict another person's mind and reaction to something like this but we need to give them that chance and like it has been said so many times in this post "It is there choice."
We aren't here to live their lives for them. Education, education, education. That is a big part of what we can do. We can't do a whole lot beyond that since, if they want drugs, they will be able to get ahold of them, simply because of the loser out there who will supply because he knows he can make some money off it.

A supply will always arise if there is a demand, ALWAYS. If there is no demand (I know there will always be a demand but I'm using this to make my point) then the supply is useless and everyone benefits. I'm going to end with my bro's quote again since I love it so much.
"Its nature's way of ridding out stupidity"

[tanmanpursley73]

larry this still doesnt ansewer my question as to what is the goal of making them legal? is it A. lower crime raight or B. fight drug use?

cuz if its A. then definetly make them legal i can see how it really would help the law enforcement system if we did.

but if its B. then i garentee u that drug use wouldnt drop if we made them legal i would bet u a bunch




o hears another idea lare run for presedent and tell the people about ur ideas about drugs i wouldnt be surprised if u got elected